That's a lot better then what I thought you were going to post!Glenn wrote:Not sure if you're man enough to join this club.Brown wrote:I might have to go in search of another club in LI!!
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I figured that the LI chapter of NAMBLA folded when Paul Greco went south.Brown wrote:That's a lot better then what I thought you were going to post!Glenn wrote:Not sure if you're man enough to join this club.Brown wrote:I might have to go in search of another club in LI!!
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That's better!! There's our Glenn!!Glenn wrote:That's a lot better then what I thought you were going to post!Brown wrote:Not sure if you're man enough to join this club.Glenn wrote:I might have to go in search of another club in LI!!
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I figured that the LI chapter of NAMBLA folded when Paul Greco went south.
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The other night i pulled the pedal cluster for some R & R as the accelerator pedal was frozen. I took it all appart and took all (most) of the rust off and repainted it.
heres a shot of it before i pulled it. I'll post an after pictures tomorrow.


Here's a couple of shots of the driver side floor. it's anything but solid but i might have to make it work until i can find a floor pan. I freed up the seat and the seat track looks in good shape becuase that will ahve to be reused.


This weekend i hope to scroung up enough stuff for a tune-up, reapcle the vacuum lines on the As, check the brakes & lights and with any luck it should be ready to roll!!
Does anyone know if the back half of a bug pan is the same size as the back of the Ghia pan? I'll be checking this weekend anyway, but just curious.
Thanks
heres a shot of it before i pulled it. I'll post an after pictures tomorrow.


Here's a couple of shots of the driver side floor. it's anything but solid but i might have to make it work until i can find a floor pan. I freed up the seat and the seat track looks in good shape becuase that will ahve to be reused.


This weekend i hope to scroung up enough stuff for a tune-up, reapcle the vacuum lines on the As, check the brakes & lights and with any luck it should be ready to roll!!
Does anyone know if the back half of a bug pan is the same size as the back of the Ghia pan? I'll be checking this weekend anyway, but just curious.
Thanks
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Autostick 
Glenn
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When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Re: Orange Crush
Glenn wrote:Autostick
yeah..... or should I say... booo! You going to rock the A/S or swap it out?
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
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Deal with it.
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I'm going to rock it initially, remember the plan, get on road quick. Then wehn i get a chance i probably will converti it!!
But this way when i go to sell the AS parts i can say if it works or not!!!
But this way when i go to sell the AS parts i can say if it works or not!!!
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The auto isn't badddd. Just don't expect it to be fast. It's a nice experience in traffic that's for sure.
I kinda like that car. It has just enough rust to look cool.
I kinda like that car. It has just enough rust to look cool.
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Installed the refurbished pedal cluster today, everything works smooth as budda!
Had to head to my daughters track meet so the car on hold till tomorrow!
Had to head to my daughters track meet so the car on hold till tomorrow!
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Will we see Orange Crush at the show in Centerport? Matter of fact, will we see Ken Brown at the car show in Centerport?!
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No & no!
Still going through car and will be working on it tomorrow! Soon I hope!
Still going through car and will be working on it tomorrow! Soon I hope!
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Will we see O C Wed night?
Still Monkeying Around. Not afraid to tell you how I really feel.
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Re: Orange Crush
ObnoxiousBlue wrote:Will we see Orange Crush at the show in Centerport? ...
will we see Ken Brown at the car show in Centerport?!
Is this the DVG, or a magic 8-ball convention?EDNCAROL wrote:Will we see O C Wed night?
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Over the weekend i put the brake pedal cluster back together with new springs and installed it back in the car.

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Then i pulled the gas tank and flushed it out, it was in good shape, and repalced all the fuel line and installed a new metal fuel filter under the tank. I blew air through the hard fuel line and put it all back together.

Since i have not gotten a new ignitions swithc i made a small bracket for unde rthe dash and wired in a on -off switch and a bush botton start. The psuh button broke so i resorted to tocuing the two wire stogether and it fired right up. I was able to shift into reverse aned low so the AS seemed good.
After few mins the engine stalled and would not re-start. After checking a few things a poured alittle gas in the carb and it fired so i knew i had a feul problem.
After a family Birthday i pulled the carburator and found no gas int he bowled bu this residue.


After removing all the jets and needle valves i sprayed the carb with cleaner and them blew out all the holes and orafices, then re-installed it.
Before i connected the fuel line i cranked it a few times to get a fresh flow of gas (i guess i should have done this in the first place).
And no, that is not my coffee!!


connected everything up, cranked it a bit to get gas int he bowl and it fired right up. Does not want to idle but i have not set the timing or adjusted the carb yet so i'm not too worried about that.
i did try and shift and but it would not go into any gear. I have to check all the wiring to see if i knocked something off, but i'm making progress. Need to check the vacuum lines on the AS as well.!

\Then i pulled the gas tank and flushed it out, it was in good shape, and repalced all the fuel line and installed a new metal fuel filter under the tank. I blew air through the hard fuel line and put it all back together.

Since i have not gotten a new ignitions swithc i made a small bracket for unde rthe dash and wired in a on -off switch and a bush botton start. The psuh button broke so i resorted to tocuing the two wire stogether and it fired right up. I was able to shift into reverse aned low so the AS seemed good.
After few mins the engine stalled and would not re-start. After checking a few things a poured alittle gas in the carb and it fired so i knew i had a feul problem.
After a family Birthday i pulled the carburator and found no gas int he bowled bu this residue.


After removing all the jets and needle valves i sprayed the carb with cleaner and them blew out all the holes and orafices, then re-installed it.
Before i connected the fuel line i cranked it a few times to get a fresh flow of gas (i guess i should have done this in the first place).
And no, that is not my coffee!!


connected everything up, cranked it a bit to get gas int he bowl and it fired right up. Does not want to idle but i have not set the timing or adjusted the carb yet so i'm not too worried about that.
i did try and shift and but it would not go into any gear. I have to check all the wiring to see if i knocked something off, but i'm making progress. Need to check the vacuum lines on the AS as well.!
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Discovered te problem with the autostick not shifting was te result of me forgetting to put a fuse back. Dumb but easy fix.
Took it for a short ride and it had surprising pep. Couldn't get it into 2nd in the neighborhood. Once I get it insured I'll give it a good run.
Next issues are the headlights don't work, no power to te fuse box, have to check switch.
Generator light is staying while running so I need to check that out.
Couple of other bulbs need to be replaced.
Took it for a short ride and it had surprising pep. Couldn't get it into 2nd in the neighborhood. Once I get it insured I'll give it a good run.
Next issues are the headlights don't work, no power to te fuse box, have to check switch.
Generator light is staying while running so I need to check that out.
Couple of other bulbs need to be replaced.
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Nice ken. Good pics too.
Gonna order a narrowed beam for this thing too?
Gonna order a narrowed beam for this thing too?
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
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Deal with it.
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its a beauty!
"I will be Setting aside my trusty can of starter fluid"ObnoxiousBlue wrote: quickly diagnosed as a break in the wire, and in no more than a twiddle of his finger Peabody and I took it back to the pavement
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Looks like a dirty pumpkin.
Cool car, though. Linseed oil that puppy up!
Cool car, though. Linseed oil that puppy up!
You can call me Will
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Stop FrackingGlenn A wrote: Carpet goes on the bottom. Unless it's a van than it can go on the sides and ceiling too.
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I've been chiping away at the list of things to get the car road worth. The other night I figured out that since the ignition swithc is not working and i had basicaly hot wired it the headlight swithc was not getting power. I ran a wire fromt he run side of my on/off switch to Pin X ont he headlight swithc and no i have headlights. I had to clean all the fuse contacts as the lights were intermittent but they are working now.
Checked out all the other lights and after cleaning some contacts r, replacing come bad bulbs and tightending some loose connections, the running lights, turn signals, backup, emergency flashers and brakes lights all work.
The generator was not charging so last night i found the top brush as rusted in palce and nat making contact. I had to chip it out and then after cleaning the brush holder installed a new brush from my stash of aprts and that's now fixed.
The last electrical problem is the horn. I jumped 12 volts to the horns and niether one work. I remvoed them boath and bench tested them and still niether worked. The look in good shape and i'm surprised that both would fail together but i am going to take them apart and see if they can be claened and made operational again. Found a great post on The Samba explaining in detail the whole process, so hope that is the problem.
Still some nimor things to do:
Patch some of the holes in the floor (temp until I can located some pans)
Give it a good tune-up. Adjust valves, plugs, wires, cap, points rotoa and condensor
Time engine
repair sticking door handle on drivers side.
Checked out all the other lights and after cleaning some contacts r, replacing come bad bulbs and tightending some loose connections, the running lights, turn signals, backup, emergency flashers and brakes lights all work.
The generator was not charging so last night i found the top brush as rusted in palce and nat making contact. I had to chip it out and then after cleaning the brush holder installed a new brush from my stash of aprts and that's now fixed.
The last electrical problem is the horn. I jumped 12 volts to the horns and niether one work. I remvoed them boath and bench tested them and still niether worked. The look in good shape and i'm surprised that both would fail together but i am going to take them apart and see if they can be claened and made operational again. Found a great post on The Samba explaining in detail the whole process, so hope that is the problem.
Still some nimor things to do:
Patch some of the holes in the floor (temp until I can located some pans)
Give it a good tune-up. Adjust valves, plugs, wires, cap, points rotoa and condensor
Time engine
repair sticking door handle on drivers side.
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Re: Orange Crush
sounds like some good progress Ken!
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.
MrBreeze wrote: This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
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Using the info from TheSamba i took the two horns apart and there are a set of contcts that were very corroded and not make a good contact so i think that is the problem. I took all the parts and cleaned them up good, then removed the rust fromthe diaphram and primed to get ready for paint tonight.
My only concern is 1/2 of the contat points came loose, so that could be a problem. I put it back together and it is held in palce by the pres fromt he other half but i'm not sure it is going to work properly. I guess i could try to use some metal weld, I'll see how it works first
Here are some picts of it as I took it apart.
back to horns

front
With cover removed - Diaphragm


Under diaphragm - Coil and magnet Coil had continuity

Backside of Diaphragm

Terminal on back of horn - Removed to be cleaned up

Points & spring/adjusting screw

1/2 of points

Other half

I think this is the resonator. - Here it is removed from diaphragm and seperated to see all the parts.
I primed the diaphragm and will paint tonight then get it all assembled and test it out!
My only concern is 1/2 of the contat points came loose, so that could be a problem. I put it back together and it is held in palce by the pres fromt he other half but i'm not sure it is going to work properly. I guess i could try to use some metal weld, I'll see how it works first
Here are some picts of it as I took it apart.
back to horns

front

With cover removed - Diaphragm


Under diaphragm - Coil and magnet Coil had continuity

Backside of Diaphragm

Terminal on back of horn - Removed to be cleaned up

Points & spring/adjusting screw

1/2 of points

Other half

I think this is the resonator. - Here it is removed from diaphragm and seperated to see all the parts.
I primed the diaphragm and will paint tonight then get it all assembled and test it out!
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Re: Orange Crush
Wouldn't it just be a bit easier to grab 1 for 5 bucks at the next swap ? Just sayin...
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !
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Go to pep boys and buy a new horn you cheap %^&@!


