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17MM ALLEN

Postby SUMTHING » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:43 pm

Looking to drop the gear lub in the trans and replace.....
anyone have a 17mm allen key (1/2" or 3/8" drive)?
I know i can buy it, but I'd rather borrow it for the one time use...
we know that the early bird gets the worm however,
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Brown » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:37 pm

Find a 17mm bolt and use a pair of vice grips to remove the plug!
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Glenn » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:14 pm

Buy one, you'll need it to change the gear lube in the tranny.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Tom » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:09 am

Did you get an engine yet ? I wouldn't bother dropping the tranny grease cold. I have the wrench but it's not a socket, it's like a very big allen key.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Big_kid » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:31 am

Open the fill plug first. If it's stuck, you don't want to drain the fluid if you can't refill it!
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Raj » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:27 am

Big_kid wrote:Open the fill plug first. If it's stuck, you don't want to drain the fluid if you can't refill it!



nice tip!
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby rob711 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:46 am

I got a set at harbor freight, 17 is the largest in the set. Don't remember what I paid, but bei g harbor freight I'm sure it was cheap! Your more than welcome to borrow mine but might not be worth the gas. You can pm me and I will throw it in mail box.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby BusBq Bill » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:09 pm

If you drove to my house to borrow one of mine it would cost you the same to buy it local. :roll:
A quart of tranny fluid cost more than the socket at pep boys.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Glenn » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:21 pm

Tools are an investment.

If you plan on owning aircooled VWs and work on them... buy tools.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby SUMTHING » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:34 pm

Usually... I would agree w/ you, however (and I'm sure Glenn you will) correct me if I'm wrong..
How often do you do a trans gear lube change...once every 5 yrs or 60,000 miles?
Why buy a tool your going to use once in five years when you have a club you can reach out to like DVG, where everybody is so willing to lend a hand? or tool?
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Big_kid » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:57 pm

The price of good tools hurts less than busted knuckles.

I got the point when I was a Monty Ward field tech. Sure, Sears guaranteed their stuff for life, but I couldn't stop in the middle of a job to drive 20 miles to the nearest Sears for an exchange. I started buying Mac, and never regretted it. They don't break like Sears stuff (even the older Sears stuff that was worth a crap).

Not to say that I don't have some HF crap too, but if it gets any amount of torque applied it likely doesn't say "Made in China".
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Raj » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:06 am

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... id=1545116

$9 shipped.
Less than a price of coffee for you and the mrs at starby's.
Then YOU get to be the guy lending out tools... how great is that!
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby SUMTHING » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:20 am

$3.67 BUS DEPOT
THNAKS GUYS!
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Tom » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:27 am

SUMTHING wrote:$3.67 BUS DEPOT
THNAKS GUYS!


See, you couldn't have drove somewhere to borrow it for that !
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby SUMTHING » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:45 am

right.... and not that the club meets twice a month plus events...all good
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby BusBq Bill » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:07 pm

Didnt know you were attending tomorrows meeting, now it makes sense, See you tomorrow!
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby BradleyVW » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:32 pm

Dave, don't know if I'm too late but I have one you can borrow
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby SUMTHING » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:51 pm

Brad to the rescue!
Thanks Brad, I picked one up due to the incredible positive response.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Glenn » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:24 pm

Dave,

I have a general rule about tools.
"Need it once, borrow it. Need it twice, buy it."

As I said before:
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If you plan on owning aircooled VWs and work on them... buy tools.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Brown » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:49 pm

I had a 17 mm Allen wrench with me at the meeting, but didn't see you there?
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Brown » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:56 pm

SUMTHING wrote:Brad to the rescue!
Thanks Brad, I picked one up due to the incredible positive response.


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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby BusBq Bill » Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:08 pm

I Also brought a 17mm wrench to the meeting, figured you would be there.. no worries
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby EDNCAROL » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:17 am

Dave I can understand that you didn't want to buy something that you felt you were only going to use once. But Ken gave you the cheap alternative with a bolt with a17 mm head on it and then you go and buy the 17 mm Allen key/socket . Are you going to return it after you use it? It was thoughtful of Ken and Bill to show up at the meeting with the tool that you didn't really need you should thank them.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby Glenn » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:11 am

I can tell you those 17mm allen in the tranny and the trailing arms can be pretty stubborn. I bet most times using as 17mm bolt head will not do the job. Even with a good quality 17mm allen socket you might need some heat.
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Re: 17MM ALLEN

Postby BusBq Bill » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:44 pm

Use a 12.9 grade 17mm Bolt Head, but then again a grade 12.9 bolt would cost a few bucks.
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