Das Volks Vintage Volkswagen Gruppe

Long Island's source for the aircooled Volkswagen Hobby

Kermit- 1969 Peru Green Beetle

Have a quick question, not related to your project? Post in here!
Forum rules
This forum is specifically intended for you to post generic questions related to a repair.

If your question is specific to a project, or your VW please post in your VW's Garage Space.

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:46 am

An old car is like an onion, when you remove one layer you find another and then another.

My car back in 1997 was going to be, fix some rust, repaint and finally fix the oil leaks. Well, there was way more rust than expected, the interior had to be removed to fix it correctly. That meant new headliner and carpet also. The engine needed more than some oil leaks fixed so it became a rebuild. So 2 years later and more hours than i can count and money that I expected to lay out it was done... so i thought. 2 years later I replaced the front beam. 4 years ago I had a engine failure and put a new engine in and last year i replaced the rear brakes and stub axles. This year the engine is out, the tranny is being rebuilt and the car is going back to the body shop to fix some "issues" that have come back after 14 years.

It's never done or as Jay Leno one said "restore it to a 100 point car and then drive it till it's a 30 point car. And then do it again".

Your car is never going to be perfect and if it is... you'll never want to drive it. I say that unless there's a issue that MUST be address now, you should drive it for a season and then think what your want to do.
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine

"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

iRide4Sue.org Please Donate to fight Cancer. $26,000 raised in 2019
User avatar
Glenn
 
Posts: 3332
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:20 pm
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby beetlejessica » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:40 am

Raj wrote:Persoanlly, if your car is already a 7 or 8 out of ten and you want a driver, I'd leave it alone. Driving a ten in NYC after months of paint/ body and all the cost would be nerve racking.


Not just driving in NYC but parking too. You'd think people who had to parallel park all the time would be good at it but in the last year we had one incident requiring body work and repainting (fender), one incident requiring rubbing and buffing (same fender), one incident of someone hitting a tailpipe and cracking the muffler, and last week we came outside to one of our bumper guards hanging off. Our neighbor hit it so hard it almost split! And that's not counting the two accidents we were in when someone hit us (from behind and sideswipe). I think in reading one of your old posts I saw you had off-street parking so that'll minimize your exposure to folks who can't park. For those who can't drive, well there's not much to be done about them. I think even if I had a garage having a 10 of a car would be so stressful I'd hate driving it no matter where I lived.
User avatar
beetlejessica
 
Posts: 39
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:07 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NY 11222
First Name: Jessica

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:10 am

All good points. :)

I'm not looking for a 10 car and I only use it for light summer driving, so it doesn't get a ton of use at all. Maybe 2000 miles/year. But some of the imperfections on the paint sorta bug me and this car is basically the only thing I spend money on besides liquor and food.

I realize it's never "just painting", and would involve taking plenty of stuff off to do a good job. Though I'm pretty confident in the integrity of the body and the pans.

That said, Glenn's advice is probably best: drive it for a season, then see how I feel. Though I'm still curious who people have been using for this kind of work. Glenn, I think you once said you work with someone in RI?

I also remember hearing someone named Dario being thrown around, though people seemed to have really mixed opinions about his work.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Raj » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:23 am

beetlejessica wrote:
Raj wrote:Persoanlly, if your car is already a 7 or 8 out of ten and you want a driver, I'd leave it alone. Driving a ten in NYC after months of paint/ body and all the cost would be nerve racking.


Not just driving in NYC but parking too. You'd think people who had to parallel park all the time would be good at it but in the last year we had one incident requiring body work and repainting (fender), one incident requiring rubbing and buffing (same fender), one incident of someone hitting a tailpipe and cracking the muffler, and last week we came outside to one of our bumper guards hanging off. Our neighbor hit it so hard it almost split! And that's not counting the two accidents we were in when someone hit us (from behind and sideswipe). I think in reading one of your old posts I saw you had off-street parking so that'll minimize your exposure to folks who can't park. For those who can't drive, well there's not much to be done about them. I think even if I had a garage having a 10 of a car would be so stressful I'd hate driving it no matter where I lived.


I was actually of thinking about your bug , Jess, as I typed that..... but as you mentioned, your car is truly daily driver status as its left to defend itself all by its lonesome from the savages (other drivers) in brooklyn day after day. My wife drives to queens everyday and leaves her truck parked in the street. There isnt a clean corner on the poor thing and its not even that old.
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.


MrBreeze wrote:This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
User avatar
Raj
 
Posts: 2097
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 pm
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:28 pm

Smurf wrote:Glenn, I think you once said you work with someone in RI?

Tim @ 401 Restoration.
I've known Tim for years and have seen his work. Some of it years old and it still looks good.
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine

"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

iRide4Sue.org Please Donate to fight Cancer. $26,000 raised in 2019
User avatar
Glenn
 
Posts: 3332
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:20 pm
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Tom » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:02 pm

Smurf wrote:the only thing I spend money on besides liquor and food.


At least you have your priorities straight !
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !

Brown wrote:Tom is right!
User avatar
Tom
 
Posts: 1325
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:02 pm
Location: Under the bus
First Name: Tom

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby mannys66 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:26 pm

Tom wrote:
Smurf wrote:the only thing I spend money on besides liquor and food.


At least you have your priorities straight !

LOL
mannys66
 

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Raj » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:22 pm

mannys66 wrote:
Tom wrote:
Smurf wrote:the only thing I spend money on besides liquor and food.


At least you have your priorities straight !

LOL


That was pretty awesome.
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.


MrBreeze wrote:This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
User avatar
Raj
 
Posts: 2097
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 pm
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby beetlejessica » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:07 pm

Raj wrote:I was actually of thinking about your bug , Jess, as I typed that..... but as you mentioned, your car is truly daily driver status as its left to defend itself all by its lonesome from the savages (other drivers) in brooklyn day after day. My wife drives to queens everyday and leaves her truck parked in the street. There isnt a clean corner on the poor thing and its not even that old.


You know, we were thinking about getting some 3 foot tall magnetic flag poles to put on the tailpipes and the front and rear bumpers with "do not hit" or "if you hit us, please leave your number" written on the flags. Or we could just hang some tires all over it like a tugboat and hope for the best.
User avatar
beetlejessica
 
Posts: 39
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:07 pm
Location: Brooklyn, NY 11222
First Name: Jessica

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:47 pm

Well, thank you all for talking me out of doing something silly [for at least a few months]. :)
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:51 pm

Smurf wrote:Well, thank you all for talking me out of doing something silly [for at least a few months]. :)

If talking didn't work, we'd breakout a Louisville Slugger and convince you.

The trick is to use your head and move slowly. Otherwise you tend to waste a lot of money.
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine

"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

iRide4Sue.org Please Donate to fight Cancer. $26,000 raised in 2019
User avatar
Glenn
 
Posts: 3332
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:20 pm
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:12 pm

Yup, I tend to prioritize speed and making sure everything looks ship-shape. Which makes me good at my job, but bad with 43 year old cars.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn A » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:27 am

Smurf wrote:Yup, I tend to prioritize speed and making sure everything looks ship-shape. Which makes me good at my job, but bad with 43 year old cars.


You should take it slow with a 43 year old it will pay big dividends in the end. Patience young grasshopper.
User avatar
Glenn A
 
Posts: 384
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:20 pm
First Name: Glenn

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 am

Glenn A wrote:
Smurf wrote:Yup, I tend to prioritize speed and making sure everything looks ship-shape. Which makes me good at my job, but bad with 43 year old cars.


You should take it slow with a 43 year old it will pay big dividends in the end. Patience young grasshopper.


I'll wait a few dates before I start stripping and painting. She's more old fashioned.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Raj » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:57 pm

Smurf wrote: She's more old fashioned.



old turkey makes good soup.

enjoy the meal
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.


MrBreeze wrote:This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
User avatar
Raj
 
Posts: 2097
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 pm
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:02 pm

Raj wrote:old turkey makes good soup.

enjoy the meal

Am I reading between the lines incorrectly?
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine

"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

iRide4Sue.org Please Donate to fight Cancer. $26,000 raised in 2019
User avatar
Glenn
 
Posts: 3332
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:20 pm
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Raj » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:43 pm

Just saw this in on CJVWS. Oh well, Hind site is always 20/20

http://www.cjvws.com/phpBB3/posting.php ... f=16&t=142
Glenn wrote:I have to say, this "gruppe" is so much more than just a car club.


MrBreeze wrote:This is the DVG board. The threads flow as they flow.
Deal with it.
User avatar
Raj
 
Posts: 2097
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 pm
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:29 pm

Slightly broken link, doesn't work without registration. This will work if you aren't a member there:

http://www.cjvws.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142

I actually saw this on TheSamba a few days ago: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... id=1243893 (same car)

I even chuckled when I saw it because I think I got a much better deal. My engine and interiors are in really great (rebuilt) shape and I paid several thousand less than he's asking. I'm not sure if he'll get what he's asking.

Though, if we're to believe that this is really all-original (I'm always a bit skeptical of those claims), it was nice to see my interiors are so close to the original color scheme. Though I like the green on the dash, I may consider that at some point.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:26 pm

Now sitting at GT for a bunch of little things. Took almost two hours to get there; never seen so much traffic on the Southern State.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn » Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:26 pm

New clutch

Image
Image

Pretty solid car.
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine

"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

iRide4Sue.org Please Donate to fight Cancer. $26,000 raised in 2019
User avatar
Glenn
 
Posts: 3332
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:20 pm
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:37 pm

Awesome, thanks for taking and posting! :D Nice surprise after my call with Tony today about the clutch.

I take it that shine under the transmission on the second photo is all the oil? I'm really looking forward to the new clutch. I'm going to teach my mom and sister how to drive it this summer. The old clutch was so heavy they would have given up on the first try.

I don't suppose that's one of your distributors, is it?

The second photo actually illuminates an area I just wasn't able to get a great look at before buying (mainly because the engine was in the way. These pans aren't as good as Smurf's, but looks like there's no nasty surprises there.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Tom » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:11 am

Why would a new clutch be less "heavy" ? Did they have a Hi-Performance pressure plate installed ? or are you not talking about the amount of pressure you must apply to the pedal ? :?
I'm not an air cooled snob , I like them all !

Brown wrote:Tom is right!
User avatar
Tom
 
Posts: 1325
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:02 pm
Location: Under the bus
First Name: Tom

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Brown » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:58 am

Kermit wrote:
I don't suppose that's one of your distributors, is it?


What am i missing?????
"THE BLEEDER"
User avatar
Brown
 
Posts: 702
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:13 pm
Location: South Shore of Nassau County
First Name: Ken

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Kermit » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:00 pm

Brown wrote:
Kermit wrote:
I don't suppose that's one of your distributors, is it?


What am i missing?????


Glenn has sold some to the guy who restored my car, but I have no idea if one of his was actually used on mine.

Tom wrote:Why would a new clutch be less "heavy" ? Did they have a Hi-Performance pressure plate installed ? or are you not talking about the amount of pressure you must apply to the pedal ? :?


You've got it right, I was talking about the pressure being applied to the pedal. The car came with a clutch more suited to drag racing than normal driving. It also happened to leak oil. So something close to stock specifications is in order.
Glenn wrote:DVG, we see all.
User avatar
Kermit
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:49 pm
Location: New York, NY
First Name: Kermit
Vehicle Year: 1969
Model: Beetle

Re: Kermit- 1969 Delta Green Beetle

Postby Glenn » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:04 am

Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine

"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

iRide4Sue.org Please Donate to fight Cancer. $26,000 raised in 2019
User avatar
Glenn
 
Posts: 3332
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:20 pm
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
First Name: Glenn
Vehicle Year: 1974
Model: Beetle

PreviousNext

Return to Weekend Warriors



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
DVG WebMail Login
cron